1 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:27,670 [Music] 2 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:43,430 the portage county ufo chase by charles 3 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:44,320 lear 4 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:47,680 in 1966 there was a ufo case that 5 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:49,600 involved a chase and sightings by 6 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:51,440 multiple police witnesses 7 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:53,520 in addition to their testimonies there 8 00:00:58,470 --> 00:00:55,680 was a reported radar confirmation 9 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:58,480 and a possible pilot witness faced with 10 00:01:01,830 --> 00:00:59,440 all this evidence 11 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:01,840 the initial air force investigation 12 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:02,879 consisted of two 13 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:05,519 phone calls to a single witness based on 14 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:07,439 interviews lasting a total of around 15 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:08,320 four minutes 16 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:10,880 the conclusion was that the officers had 17 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:12,080 seen a satellite 18 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,720 and chased the planet venus the case was 19 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:16,640 re-evaluated after a more thorough 20 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:17,680 investigation 21 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:19,520 thanks to the efforts of an outraged 22 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:21,840 congressman and the conclusion was 23 00:01:26,310 --> 00:01:24,240 that the officers had seen a satellite 24 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:26,320 and chased the planet venus 25 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:29,680 on the morning of april 17 1966 26 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:31,920 two sheriff deputies dale sparr and 27 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:33,360 wilbur barney neff 28 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:36,000 chased a ufo from portage county ohio 29 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:38,240 for 86 miles all the way into 30 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:39,360 pennsylvania 31 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:41,520 they chased the object at speeds ranging 32 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:44,240 from 80 miles per hour to 105 miles per 33 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:44,799 hour 34 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:46,799 and according to them there were times 35 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:48,799 when the object actually stopped and 36 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,799 waited for them to catch up to it 37 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:53,119 other law enforcement officers witnessed 38 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:54,000 the object after 39 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:56,320 being alerted by radio communications 40 00:01:58,870 --> 00:01:57,759 between the deputies and their 41 00:02:02,069 --> 00:01:58,880 dispatcher 42 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:02,079 the strangeness began at 4 30 am a call 43 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:03,759 came over the radio informing the 44 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:04,479 deputies 45 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:06,399 that a woman in summit county had 46 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:08,239 reported seeing a bright object 47 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:10,720 that flew low over our property she said 48 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:12,959 it was moving towards portage county 49 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:15,120 spar and neff laughed it off and went on 50 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:17,120 with their schedule of spot checks 51 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:19,680 at around 5 am they saw an abandoned 52 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:21,440 vehicle on route 224 53 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:23,520 near ravenna and got out of their car to 54 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,480 investigate 55 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:26,640 according to sparr he was in the habit 56 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,319 of looking behind him to make sure 57 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:30,560 no one was sneaking up on him he turned 58 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:32,640 around and saw a light over the trees of 59 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:33,680 a nearby hill 60 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:36,160 he alerted neff and as they watched it 61 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:38,160 moved over the police car and hovered 62 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:40,560 they could now see it was an object 35 63 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:41,840 to 40 feet wide 64 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:43,920 with a bright white glow that lit up the 65 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:45,440 area around the car 66 00:02:49,589 --> 00:02:48,080 it hummed like a loaded transformer 67 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:49,599 thinking it best he gets something 68 00:02:52,070 --> 00:02:50,000 between 69 00:02:54,390 --> 00:02:52,080 them and the object they got into the 70 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:54,400 car the object moved off towards the 71 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:54,879 east 72 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:56,560 and then stopped about a hundred feet 73 00:03:00,790 --> 00:02:58,560 away as if it was waiting for them 74 00:03:01,830 --> 00:03:00,800 they contacted their dispatcher deputy 75 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:01,840 robert wilson 76 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:03,360 and told him they were looking at what 77 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:04,959 might have been the object reported 78 00:03:08,149 --> 00:03:05,680 earlier 79 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:08,159 wilson asked sparr if he had his 44 80 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:09,200 magnum with him 81 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:11,760 sparr confirmed and wilson suggested he 82 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,440 take a shot at the object 83 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:15,360 sparr considered this briefly and 84 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:17,280 decided it was unwise to risk 85 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:18,319 antagonizing 86 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,080 whatever might be controlling such a 87 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:22,800 large object wilson realized spar was 88 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,440 serious 89 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:25,680 and asked sergeant hank schoenfeld for 90 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,560 advice 91 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:28,480 schoenfeld got on the radio and told 92 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:30,560 them to maintain visual contact 93 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,159 while he arranged for a car to be 94 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:34,560 dispatched he said he would send along a 95 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:35,120 camera 96 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:37,360 in order to take a picture of the object 97 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:38,560 spar acknowledged 98 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,560 put the car in gear and moved slowly 99 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:41,840 towards the object 100 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:44,400 the object responded by moving away at a 101 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:47,200 similar speed sparr told schoenfeld what 102 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:48,000 was happening 103 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:50,000 and asked if they should keep up with it 104 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:52,080 shone felt confirmed and repeated that 105 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:53,840 there was a camera on the way 106 00:03:56,949 --> 00:03:56,239 spar accelerated and the object did as 107 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:56,959 well 108 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,360 soon they were after it at 85 miles per 109 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:01,680 hour they noticed that the object tilted 110 00:04:04,949 --> 00:04:03,599 its leading edge down as it moved 111 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:04,959 and the light below it remained 112 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:07,200 perpendicular to the object and followed 113 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:08,640 on the ground behind it 114 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,799 as daylight came on they could see more 115 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:11,680 details 116 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:13,760 the object had a definite outline with a 117 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:15,760 metallic top and what looked like an 118 00:04:18,789 --> 00:04:16,479 antenna 119 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:18,799 whenever spars slowed down to negotiate 120 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:19,600 in traffic 121 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:21,919 the object slowed down let him catch up 122 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:23,280 and then accelerated 123 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:25,680 before long the deputies were in another 124 00:04:28,150 --> 00:04:26,320 county 125 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:28,160 they were out of their jurisdiction and 126 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:29,840 headed for the state line 127 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:32,639 they approached unity ohio on route 14 128 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,400 and patrolman wayne houston 129 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:36,479 of the east palestine police force was 130 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,160 waiting for them after hearing them 131 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:40,720 on the radio he called spar and asked 132 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:42,320 him where to look for the object 133 00:04:46,629 --> 00:04:44,639 spar told him to look to the northwest 134 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:46,639 houston did so and saw the object 135 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:47,759 heading towards him 136 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:50,000 it passed him at over 80 miles per hour 137 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:51,759 followed by spar and neff 138 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:53,759 houston got into his car and joined the 139 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:55,680 pursuit in pennsylvania 140 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:57,840 conway patrolman frank panzanella 141 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:59,840 spotted the object while on his way home 142 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:01,360 after a night on duty 143 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,280 he pulled over and got out of his car to 144 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:05,120 look at it as it hovered by 145 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:07,360 the cars from ohio came up from behind 146 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:08,400 him and stopped 147 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,320 houston spa sparring neph got out and 148 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:12,639 ran towards him they asked panzanella if 149 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:13,919 he was seeing the object 150 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:16,479 and he reluctantly admitted he was the 151 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:18,080 object moved straight up 152 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:20,160 hovered and a commercial airliner flew 153 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:22,720 under it panzanella called the rochester 154 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:24,000 base radio station 155 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:26,560 and asked operator john b to call 156 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:28,160 greater pittsburgh airport 157 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,479 and see if they had the object on radar 158 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:32,639 be he complied and reported back 159 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:34,400 that they had it on radar and were 160 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:36,639 sending two planes up to intercept 161 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:38,720 as soon as the planes were mentioned the 162 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:40,720 object shot upwards until it was out of 163 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:41,440 sight 164 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:43,759 the ohio officers headed back towards 165 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:44,720 portage county 166 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:47,520 and panzanella got a call from b the u.s 167 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:49,919 air reserve at the airport had requested 168 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:51,919 that the officers give them a report on 169 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:52,800 the object 170 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:55,520 panzanella contacted the ohio officers 171 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:57,360 relayed the message and a report was 172 00:06:00,790 --> 00:05:58,560 given to the air reserve 173 00:06:02,390 --> 00:06:00,800 office from there it made its way to the 174 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,400 office of project blue book 175 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:04,319 at wright-patterson air force base in 176 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:05,600 dayton ohio 177 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:07,280 sparr was interviewed by the head of 178 00:06:11,909 --> 00:06:09,680 blue book major hector quintanilla 179 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:11,919 the next morning quintanilla started the 180 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,199 conversation with 181 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:15,440 what was this mirage you saw the 182 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:17,680 interview lasted two and a half minutes 183 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,400 quintanilla called again on april 21st 184 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:22,400 and that interview lasted one and a half 185 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:23,360 minutes 186 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:25,440 sparse sensed that quintanilla wanted 187 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:27,680 him to say he'd only observed the object 188 00:06:31,029 --> 00:06:29,039 for a matter of minutes 189 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,039 he noted that quintanilla broke off the 190 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:33,199 conversation when he told him he'd seen 191 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:34,639 it for much longer 192 00:06:39,430 --> 00:06:36,880 civilian investigators were far more 193 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:39,440 thorough two members of the akron flying 194 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:41,120 saucer investigating committee 195 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:43,759 a.e canduso and larry moyers brought a 196 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:44,880 geiger counter 197 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:46,479 they checked the area of the initial 198 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:48,720 sighting for radiation and found nothing 199 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:49,680 unusual 200 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:51,759 three members of the cleveland ufology 201 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:53,759 project visited the portage county 202 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:55,599 police station to interview sparr and 203 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:56,080 neff 204 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:58,080 and william weitzel representing the 205 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,919 national investigations committee on 206 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:00,960 aerial phenomena 207 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:02,960 was there as well weitzel was the 208 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:04,960 chairman of the pennsylvania nycap 209 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:05,759 subcommittee 210 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:07,599 and he wrote up a narrative account that 211 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:10,479 can be found on the qfos.org website 212 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:12,400 reports and documents relating to the 213 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:14,800 case can be found at the nycap.org 214 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:15,680 website 215 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:18,720 on april 22nd quintanilla called sheriff 216 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:19,840 ross dustman 217 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:22,319 at the station and gave his evaluation 218 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:24,160 he told the sheriff that the deputies 219 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:24,720 had seen 220 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:26,560 an echo satellite moving to the 221 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:28,880 southeast venus was also in the 222 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:29,840 southeast 223 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,919 according to quintinea they mistook 224 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:33,440 venus for the satellite 225 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:35,280 and proceeded to chase it all the way 226 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:36,639 into pennsylvania 227 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,800 according to weitzel's account dussman 228 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:40,400 laughed out loud when he heard the 229 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:41,520 explanation 230 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:43,520 the congressman representing portage 231 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:45,120 county william stanton 232 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:46,800 was preparing to be interviewed about 233 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:48,560 the case for the record courier 234 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:50,400 and he wanted to know the facts 235 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:51,919 whitesell sent him a letter and the 236 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:53,759 congressman forwarded it to the air 237 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,240 force 238 00:07:58,629 --> 00:07:56,960 and asked for an explanation after two 239 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:58,639 weeks of waiting for a reply 240 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,479 he went to the pentagon and spoke to 241 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:02,479 lieutenant colonel john spalding 242 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:04,560 chief of community relations division 243 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:05,759 usaf 244 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,680 spalding admitted that not sending 245 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:09,759 someone to portage county had been 246 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:12,000 an error and promised someone would come 247 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:13,120 within a week 248 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,280 that someone was quintanilla and he 249 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:17,039 interviewed sparr in an office at the 250 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:18,240 county courthouse 251 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:20,160 sparr asked weitzel to tape the 252 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:22,319 interview sparr filled out a report 253 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:24,080 and was interviewed alone with the tape 254 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,080 running after this was done 255 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:28,400 quintanilla repeated his original 256 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:29,440 evaluation 257 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:31,759 and stubbornly stuck to it despite 258 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,680 long-term attempts by white soul and 259 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:35,120 others to reason with him 260 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:37,360 sparr was encouraged by nikop to speak 261 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:38,479 out about the case 262 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:40,880 and he did so as other witnesses went 263 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:41,599 silent 264 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:43,039 he was hounded by the press and 265 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:45,279 ridiculed the pressure took its toll 266 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:47,839 and spar lost his job his wife and his 267 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:48,560 children 268 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:50,480 he ended up working in a coal mine in 269 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:51,680 west virginia 270 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:54,000 this case came just after quintanilla 271 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:55,760 had been called to appear at hearings 272 00:08:58,630 --> 00:08:56,959 before congress 273 00:09:00,550 --> 00:08:58,640 these were convened in the wake of blue 274 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:00,560 book scientific consultant jaylen 275 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:01,920 heineck's explanation 276 00:09:05,829 --> 00:09:03,839 that swamp gas might have been the cause 277 00:09:07,829 --> 00:09:05,839 of ufo sightings in michigan 278 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:07,839 the air force was moved by the hearings 279 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:09,920 to fund the condon committee study that 280 00:09:15,269 --> 00:09:12,880 led to blue books demise in 1969 281 00:09:26,970 --> 00:09:15,279 it's likely that quintanilla didn't lose